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05-09-2005, 11:27 AM
By Scott Johnson and John Barry
NewsweekMay 16 issue -

Don't ask America's top brass exactly how the Iraq war is going. They don't know. The various U.S. services have never managed to agree on a unified system for gauging successes and failures in the counterinsurgency campaign. Instead, everyone uses a different yardstick. Recently the National Intelligence Council, the information clearinghouse for America's spy services, produced a study of the problem. NEWSWEEK has learned that the document, which remains classified, urges that the present babel of war assessments be replaced with a coherent system, one that would help U.S. forces react faster and more effectively to shifting insurgent tactics and other challenges. The paper's overall tone is "not uplifting," according to a source familiar with its contents. In blunt terms, things are looking grim. How grim? It's anybody's guess.

Good luck finding someone in the administration to make that guess. America's Iraq policy is like a ghost ship these days. The administration has tried to lower its profile in Iraq, hoping to keep the new assembly from looking like a U.S. puppet. But concern is rising that America may have retreated too far. The Pentagon's three top civilians for day-to-day Iraqi affairs—Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith and William Luti—are going soon or already gone. Now the State Department is in charge. Yet Baghdad has been without a U.S. ambassador for the past month, since John Negroponte left to become director of National Intelligence. The administration's top diplomat in Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, was named to succeed him, but as of last weekend his confirmation hearings had not even been scheduled. The embassy's interim boss, Deputy Chief of Mission James Jeffrey, has already been handed his next assignment. In March, when Rice appointed career Foreign Service officer Richard Jones as her special envoy to Baghdad, State Department sources thought he would be assigned at least a half dozen aides. Now an official says Jones's team is only half that size. "State is in charge of the game now," says a senior military official, "but it's too much for them."

Nothing is going the way it is supposed too...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7774784/site/newsweek/

merkurfan
05-09-2005, 02:05 PM
Nothing goes as planed in war.. Where do you think SNAFU came from (situation normal all f***** up)

Gary
05-17-2005, 08:01 PM
Don't ask America's top brass exactly how the Iraq war is going




http://www.expediterworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1524

No, don't ask; You might find out the truth :yikes:

Mare
05-17-2005, 11:25 PM
Newsweek..............Newsweek.......... haven't I heard that name a lot recently??
:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :yikes:

merkurfan
05-18-2005, 07:33 AM
something about flushing the koran right? must be a small book or a very powerfull crapper :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

newsweak retracted the story.. seems it was something a potty trained bull might flush.

Jimbo
05-20-2005, 04:29 AM
Let me tell you something. I was on the phone with an Army Special Forces soldier a few weeks ago, and he paints a different picture of Iraq than what you see on TV.

"Sure, we take losses, but then we go make them pay for it....and they pay hard."

His commander had just lost a leg as a result of getting hit by a roadside bomb, but about 25 little sand fleas got themselves killed that night. The way the TV shows it, we are getting slaughtered over there. The men fighting tell it another way. There are things I just can't repeat, but let me put it this way:

I almost feel sorry for the poor little scumbag sand fleas that get caught setting a roadside bomb. You can make it hurt pretty bad, for a pretty long time, before you kill the human waste product.

God bless the fighters who are out and about in the dead of the night, so I can be secure in my house, fast asleep.

KenOVM
05-20-2005, 06:07 AM
In the name of peace.....
:)

Busy B
05-20-2005, 06:57 AM
As a Vietnam Vet, Assigned to the Army Rangers of the 173rd Airborne, as a combat medic, no one is more patriotic than I, but for all practical purposes, everyone has made their point.

Please, do not take this thread any further, someone may be offended by what would follow. Stating a fact is fine, but please, again, do not let personal feelings enter into this thread.

There I have said it, nuff said, right?

merkurfan
05-20-2005, 09:42 AM
I hope no one misunderstood my comment. Basically what i am saying is a book tends to have some size to it. I have never seen a Koran but my guess is that it is about the size of the Bible. Neither of which would fit through the pipes or the trap of a standard toliet.

Busy B
05-20-2005, 09:47 AM
Nothing wrong with yours, kinda looks like the one I was worried about being taken wrong was deleted. In fact, I might even agree with yours. I am extremely pleased to see that the Admin will delete a prtential problem.

I have my feathers back in place anyway :cheers: