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KenOVM
09-16-2006, 06:57 AM
I heard troopers do rest area checks..If they wake you and your out of hours. Don't you have to log back on as "on duty not driving"?
And if your out of hours wouldn't it be illegal for the officer to ask you to break the law ????
sidecar
09-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Why would they wake you up in a rest area?
Lonleyboy515
09-16-2006, 11:50 AM
Yea Ken why would they wake you up in the pickle park? :D :D
hellcat_99
09-16-2006, 11:52 AM
If they wake you up, you are still off duty. They are supposed to patrol the lots, not wake sleeping drivers.
Holly
KenOVM
09-17-2006, 05:33 PM
I heard "rumours" the trooprs wake drivers up to do checks.
Jimmy says we'll put the dogs on em' and you should see our Big Jake, he's a scarry guy!! :yikes:
hellcat_99
09-17-2006, 06:48 PM
A trooper will not just walk up to a trk & wake up a driver. They won't bother you even if you are just sitting there. They will come after you if you give them reason to.
Holly
SPARKY
09-18-2006, 07:09 PM
A trooper will not just walk up to a trk & wake up a driver. They won't bother you even if you are just sitting there. They will come after you if you give them reason to.
Holly
Well Holly, I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one. They will CERTAINLY walk up to your truck and wake a sleeping driver. We had this VERY thing happen recently on I-84 in PA ON A SATURDAY AM!!!! Six o'clock in the AM and they wanted to set up a DOT check area and weighing area and WE happened to be in 1 of the spots they wanted to use. I guess from your statement that breathing and sleeping was giving the PA State Police a reason?? He asked us to move to the exit ramp as there were no other spaces open. Smart move on his part. Apparently he's never had to sleep next to an area with trucks accelerating onto the highway. When a cop wants to wake you up.....HE'S GOING TO WAKE YOU UP!!!! This is not the first time this has happened to us in a rest area, just the most recent. Not quite sure where you're getting your inside information Holly but you might want to check your facts again.
As to your question Ken, yes you would then be "on duty, not driving" technically. If he is going to do a level 1 inspection you will have to log it and have HIM sign off that the inspection was at HIS request while you were in the sleeper berth in the comments section. I would make sure to politely tell him you were out of hours at the beginning of the inspection. Even a log inspection is an interuption of your 10 hrs off, so legally you must start the 10 hrs all over again.
KenOVM
09-18-2006, 08:46 PM
Thanx Sparky! Just another reason I won't go back to big trucks.
Uncle Truck
09-19-2006, 01:24 AM
One good reason I never sleep in rest areas. One night I just stopped in one in NJ for a break, and the troopers there will get on an amplified megaphone and wake up drivers sleeping, which IMHO is total BS! Drivers are stopping into those areas to rest and be safe and compliant with the laws, in other words doing what they are supposed to do. They do not need the megaphone Gestapo at 3 AM doing compliance checks, period, and as the rules of trucking are regulated so should the rules of what law enforcement agencies should be able to rightfully do, but I know I am dreaming :rofl:
-UT-
windcatcher
09-20-2006, 06:24 AM
:angry: Is there any respect for compliant drivers? :angry:
Never had this happen but have heard of it more than once:
Sparky, I would imagine this to be a regional and local policy thing more than a nationwide and common experience.
:angry: How can they require that you move if your past your 14 hour day... or wake you in the midst of your 10 to rest.... unless it is an emergency.....and then to give authorization or escort to nearest rest of safety?
The law stinks when authority can impose itself without serious accounting, against the laws to which citizens are held accountable by regulation and enforcement.
Am I seeing double standards here? :angry:
Personally, my action.....if thinking straight (and who does this very well when rudely awakened from a deep slumber) is to ignore the knock at the door....unless and until there's a repeat with a demand or threat. Then answer with compliance but a protest, and, perhaps, an insistance on an escourt to a proper rest area. Good idea to get their signing off on your log book as an authority requesting the violation and move, on your logs.
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